At Sven's suggestion - this is the long (edited) version!

From: Sven Guckes
To: Kate McMillan
Subject: Re: shooting up them ISP supporters

Hello, again!

But why do you ssh to kens.com at all? You could have your email forwarded to your home address and answer them from there!

> I do that sometimes - but with building my webpage and emailing
> attachments, etc. from a third server, I find I'm always coming here
> to remove the forward file. Hassle.

Kate - please use "scp" to copy files from your local machine to another. Mailing data is just a workaround when no scp is available.

> I compose on the freenet because the time is free. SFN doesn't offer
> scp. Only pine 3.96. (Western computer link uses pine 3.91!)

[Sven suggests learning mutt]

> So, to use mutt, I must come here - learn vi to compose
> my replies, deal with the lag... getting the picture yet?

Well, you don't need to learn everything at once. Just put "set editor=pico" into your $HOME/.muttrc and will learn mutt much quicker (I think).

> Sven -always remember this - I have used no other computer besides
> this old XT. I have zero training, besides what I've picked up on
> my own. I must do all of it online. When I got on the net about a
> year ago, on a OSF1 UNIX shell, the ip did not provide any information
> or help manuals.
> Upon login, I was informed that pine, lynx or gopher, ncftp, telnet,
> tin, and psswd were the commands available. No mention of man pages,
> editors (pico and vi), file managing, w or who, etc. etc.

I guess "they" never knew that you are able to learn.
Did you tell them you are a woman? ;-)

> When I first put some pics of my work on the net, I would drive 30
> miles to the city, have them scan and enter them into my files. I
> was never told that I had the ability to add or delete, create files...
> And when I mentioned it, they told me "no" that I couldn't.

Have you shot those guys yet?

> When I asked if I could telnet in to get my mail, they said,
> "no" that I couldn't. Well, yes, I can, and I have.
> So asking my ip for help is pointless.

okok - I got it now.
How about putting this info up on a separate webpage? That's what I do - and when someone asks me then I just give them the URL and have them read...

> None of this is complaining, of course.
> Just want to give you a picture of where I am coming from. :)

Moose country - I know.

Sven

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